Brain, Hope, Reality: PTSI not PTSD | Hosted by Dr. Eugene Lipov

Dr. Eugene Lipov (00:00.474)
figured out. So what do you think? How did that happen? Do we know how to fix it in the future? So reset everything? Okay, whatever. All right, I'm just going to pull up your stuff you sent me so I can put it in, okay?

Sol (00:12.895)
Okay.

Dr. Eugene Lipov (00:14.618)
All right, thank you. Close the door, please. Thank you very much. All good, can you hear? Okay, my sound engineer, Dr. Nader is checking. You talk too, dear, for a second.

Sol (00:25.362)
Oh, that's amazing.

Dr. Eugene Lipov (00:28.39)
One more time, you keep just talk for a minute. Just count one, two, three, four, five.

Sol (00:33.698)
Great to see you.

Dr. Eugene Lipov (00:35.41)
Perfect. See you.

Sol (00:37.003)
I'm sorry.

Dr. Eugene Lipov (00:38.586)
All right, so we are recording, yes? Yes, you're all recording right now. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Thank you and thank you and thank you and thank you. All right. Well, hello, Ms. Sell. Nice to see you again.

Sol (00:52.45)
Hello, Dr. G, how are you?

Dr. Eugene Lipov (00:55.786)
I'm doing great. Looking forward to welcoming you to our podcast. We're just starting out and you're one of our amazing guests. I had an opportunity to spend time with you in Chicago. And so I thought as much as I'd like to kind of give you your accolades and the reason I wanted to have you on our podcast, which is turned Brain, Hope and Reality is a big part. I think hope is a huge part of life. I assume you would agree with me.

Sol (01:19.031)
Hmm.

Dr. Eugene Lipov (01:25.95)
And one of the things I was intrigued with when you and I had a chance to chat in Chicago, is that you talked about how you worked with women and how were you working with semantics or how if you put the body in the right position, it affects the mind. So it goes back and forth. And I think a lot of people don't quite realize that. And that's why brain, you know, I'm a self taught neuroscientist. I don't have any formal training in that.

Sol (01:25.973)
Yes.

Dr. Eugene Lipov (01:55.814)
But I think it's important people realize the reality of how the body actually works. I think if you do it, you can help yourself. And then so hope to me, at least what I was very intrigued with the way you described how we treat people and I'm looking forward to our discussion on that. Obviously, I'm not a psychiatrist, I'm not a psychologist, but somehow or other I fell into this section of fight and flight system resetting. And you were here, you're kind enough to accompany one of our patients.

And I think hopefully you saw firsthand some of the responses. So if you can just give us a quick background and what you currently do, where you're located, you're like a globe traveler. I'm here in one spot in Chicago forever. You're like, oh, we're here today in Switzerland. Where are you right now? I don't know, Florida, Brazil, Miami. You're like, oh my God, I don't know how you keep track of it. Anyway, welcome. Welcome, Sal.

Sol (02:36.919)
Heh.

Sol (02:48.43)
Thank you, thank you so much. What a pleasure seeing you again. And yeah, I am very, very thankful to be here, to be able to connect with you again and to be able to add value to whatever, whoever is listening to that. I am an international women's coach, but before I was working as a teacher and there were...

so many things that I could learn from the kids, from their behavior, their emotion, and I'm very much into inner child healing. I see that the most of the women that I support have this layer of programming that they receive as a child and

Some of them are easy, some of them are not, and I'm not trying to judge anybody, but I just see that there is so much pressure that comes to them, and it's about really allowing them to open up a space where they can release all that pressure with the body wisdom. And I do retreats, I do workshops, I do one-on-one coachings.

and I travel around the world because I speak six languages and that helps me to yeah to support and help and give my gifts to all the women in different parts of the world and I'm very happy to do what I do yeah

Dr. Eugene Lipov (04:33.422)
It must be very fulfilling, right? I mean, the same reason I love to get up every morning. It's like I see people smile and faces and how it changed their life. I mean, that's as a clinician, and I think you're a clinician in your own right. I think that's why we do what we do. I think that's why you and I actually connected at that level, because we both care about people. Just as background, I don't know if you recall, but my mother took her life when I was an intern. And that's part of the reason I'm very interested in helping.

Sol (04:47.51)
Yeah.

Exactly.

Sol (04:54.432)
Yeah.

Sol (04:59.443)
Uh-huh.

Dr. Eugene Lipov (05:03.362)
I'd like to help all types of people, of course, but women is one of particular interests. The other one is military. You can see some challenge coins there. But today, my focus would be on women and women's help. So can you just tell us, like, for example, what do you actually currently do? You know, I'm one of those, how do you, you know, I'm more of like a more of a rigorously trained physician, right? So can you just walk us through briefly?

How do you decide who needs what treatment? What do you actually do? What kind of results have you seen?

Sol (05:38.63)
Well, it's everybody comes. Yeah, everybody comes with a different story. Some of them just need really to organize their thoughts. And it's something in their head where you just see, OK, that the way you are seeing that story is not very supporting you to who you want to become.

Dr. Eugene Lipov (05:43.266)
Everybody could be different.

Sol (06:06.986)
So really overthinking and talking about it or recognize and realize to be really conscious about it and then choose to tell the story in a way where they can feel the empowerment because I really do believe that's always both side of the coins, right? You always have maybe a bad story, but out of that you can take so much resilience and that helps you to

to build your character in a way that you can use it for your future, that you can recognize what a superpower is. Because I think one of the most beautiful gifts that you will receive in your life are the gifts that hurt a lot when you receive it. And there is a huge power to recognize it.

Dr. Eugene Lipov (06:57.698)
It's hard to appreciate during the time you receive that gift, isn't it?

Sol (07:03.135)
Excuse me?

Dr. Eugene Lipov (07:03.934)
So, uh-oh. What I was saying, it's kind of interesting. You're on the other side of the globe right now. We're able to communicate. I think it's amazing. But what I was saying is, you know, it's kind of as great. The gift like that is amazing later. At the time, it doesn't feel amazing, does it?

Sol (07:16.66)
Yeah.

Sol (07:27.462)
No, no, it's very hard. It's very hard. But I think the sooner The sooner you are conscious and you're able to realize That life works for you so that you can have a Other soft skill that you didn't have before or that you can be more And have more empathy with somebody that goes through that story so you can tell about that

Dr. Eugene Lipov (07:29.798)
Yeah, like when I got to see it, I went, mm-hmm. No.

Sol (07:57.186)
and it's very powerful if you have somebody that is also like taking care of their mental health and can look and see wow you've been to just transformation you know like a butterfly but the butterfly can see their own wings they will need somebody else to see their own wings and that's like more the coaching part yeah

Dr. Eugene Lipov (08:19.882)
That's a great way of phrasing it. And that's what the coaching does, right? So it basically sounds to me like you go where the people need to be going. So everybody is unique. Do you use anything like yoga and retreats and Buddhism or what kind of tools do you use?

Sol (08:28.838)
Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

Sol (08:38.51)
Yeah, yeah, I do use a lot of active meditation. It comes from Osho. He was a really interesting crazy dude that impacted a lot of us, like from the spiritual scene. His meditation are, like I said, very active and he works with the chakras. And it's really about like...

leaving your mind, leaving your head and going into your body and to be focused on your inner world like to feel your body internally what it does and not to judge because I think where the most suffer comes is when we judge our emotion.

Dr. Eugene Lipov (09:31.15)
Oh no, I agree with you because a lot of times... Yeah, go ahead.

Sol (09:35.056)
is the fear of, oh my goodness, what will I be thinking or what other people will be thinking if my body does what the body does. And that is really, really interesting to see how much power it is in it when we leave the body, like just do what it needs to do to shake or whatever it is there.

and it's like a sort of releasing. It's amazing to be part of this transformation.

Dr. Eugene Lipov (10:05.042)
So basically you're allowing the body to do whatever it needs to do. Like for example, if you have a polar bear that's over stressed, they start to shake, right? So the shaking is a normal response to a body. But if you try to suppress it, it's not going to go very far because the body can respond. That's what you do. Yeah, it's basically, yeah, exactly. Self-doubt, especially what I found, especially in my female patients or women. It's like...

Sol (10:24.246)
Yeah, exactly.

Sol (10:31.693)
Uh huh.

Dr. Eugene Lipov (10:33.818)
this amount of self doubt and am I, am I worthy of being treated? That drives me absolutely crazy. That, that just drives me nuts to see that. And especially the stronger the women that they seem to beat themselves up the most, which is like, it's like, I don't, I can't understand that I can't. I keep asking my wife about it and I just don't understand it. It's just like, I, my mother had a great saying.

Sol (10:41.218)
Mm-hmm.

Sol (10:53.962)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Dr. Eugene Lipov (11:01.171)
She said, never say anything bad about yourself. Somebody will do it for you.

Sol (11:06.0)
Yeah, that's true. That's a good one. Yeah.

Dr. Eugene Lipov (11:08.846)
Why self beat up? By the way, there is a book I'd like to recommend for you to look at and maybe for your patients clients. It's called The Five Practices of Highly Resilient People. Why some flourish and others fold. And I'll put a link for that. So I was amazingly blessed to meet this author. Her name is Dr. Taryn Maria.

Sol (11:13.971)
Uh huh.

Sol (11:21.558)
Wow, okay, I'm gonna take a note. Mm.

Sol (11:30.531)
Great.

Dr. Eugene Lipov (11:37.306)
um, Stedgickal, I think is how it's pronounced. But basically she talks about horrible stuff that happened to her in childhood. And you're talking about the nasty gift at the time, but she's done something amazing with it and what she is doing. She actually got a degree in psychology and I think neurosciences and she's a global coach. So I'm going to introduce you guys to each other. Maybe it'll be.

Sol (11:49.954)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Eugene Lipov (12:04.046)
a really good synergy between two of you. She's an amazing lady. And by the way, so if you don't mind, I think we should do a pitch for whatever website you'd like people to see. I'm sure there's gonna be people who'd like to come to your retreats and or interact with you anyway. I think it'd be amazing. So we'll put it down, but if you can just tell us what it is, that'd be great.

Sol (12:06.774)
Yes, sounds great. Sounds great.

Sol (12:23.123)
Yeah, like...

Sol (12:27.358)
Yeah, that's womancircleretreat.com And there you can find, yeah, the retreats, the upcoming events from Bali to Switzerland to Miami to Brazil, whatever you want to do the retreat.

Dr. Eugene Lipov (12:34.27)
Thanks for watching.

Dr. Eugene Lipov (12:44.582)
I mean, do you have anything coming up? I heard there's something coming up in the United States.

Sol (12:49.95)
Yeah, in Miami, we're gonna do a women's circle retreat in Miami. It's about really recognizing like How you say open up a space where you can discover yourself It's always about self-discovery because it's really I just saw that recently um studies were showing that only five percent of the people really know who they are and really

put that integrity in action. And 15% think they know who they are. And the rest doesn't really think about it. They're just existing instead of creating. And.

Dr. Eugene Lipov (13:33.218)
Can you kind of tell me more what knowing what you are means? How do you define that? What's the metric of that? I don't know. Keep in mind, I'm more a science-y guy.

Sol (13:41.266)
like defining in the deepest, yeah, in the deepest core, right? I think like one of the most important question that you will ever ask yourself is like, who am I? Who am I? Without any titles, without like having to function or having to curve or being somebody that

the society wants you to be, like taking this space where you can be just like experiencing yourself as a human to get the sole answer. And it's very interesting to open up this space because nowadays everything moves so fast and we have so much things to do and so quickly is everything and we are used to hustle and function and produce especially.

for a woman that is actually not really in her feminine nature to just function the whole time to really be able to open up a space and to allow her to come in this feminine, very soft, caring nature that she is and I think that the world needs more kindness, the world needs more softness, the world needs more love and

That's just a space where you can discover yourself without any abstraction, without the cell phone, without TV, without nobody judging you or telling you what to do or not to do.

Dr. Eugene Lipov (15:25.79)
So let me ask you a question. So in Mexico, there's an election coming up. There are two women running. So there's going to be a female president in Mexico, I think, first time ever. What do you think of that? What do you think the impact on society can be?

Sol (15:34.707)
Oh wow.

Sol (15:41.358)
Like I was talking to a doctor, she also knows a lot about economic and also does women's retreat and was very interesting to hear from her that whatever the country has this sisterhood or where the woman is in tuned and aligned with her power and connected with other women.

Dr. Eugene Lipov (16:18.63)
growth, economic growth or prosperity.

Sol (16:19.827)
the economic growth expands and is huge. And it's like this nurturing forces that we have. And wherever it's not like that, it's quite bad to see. And it's very interesting, I think,

when we are like open, when we are open to discover this power and we are open to, yeah, to open up the space. So I think it's great to hear that. I like that.

Dr. Eugene Lipov (17:00.246)
Exactly. And I was also, I was watching, my wife and I are watching a program on curiosity. It's like a video, a learning video. And there was a psychologist from Yale was talking about what would happen if women are in charge as opposed to men were in charge. And that's exactly what we're talking about. More of an integration. The idea is to integrate. Right. So if you look at women's brains, so corpus callosum, which connects two hemispheres, two parts of the brain, is two, three times thicker.

Sol (17:20.212)
Yeah.

Sol (17:26.07)
Yeah.

Dr. Eugene Lipov (17:30.018)
in women as opposed to men. So you're actually using more of your brain compared to the guys. So if you look at the guys and say, you know, men can multitask, not really, not particularly well. That's like, and my wife can do many more multitasking at the same time. And I think it's very interesting to see. And I think as you look at the movement, where we are in societal levels, I think there are pressure of women becoming more...

Sol (17:32.06)
Oh, interesting.

Dr. Eugene Lipov (17:59.25)
in charge, in charge of committees, all the crazy stuff, misogynistic stuff seems to be falling apart, hopefully because I think we need to save the world. And I think people like yourself also wanna integrate the nature. You and I have talked about how much you love nature. We have a house in Michigan, which is the old trees, basically, trees and birds. So it's such a relief to be there. So it's all integration, but continuous striving.

Sol (18:16.759)
Yeah.

Dr. Eugene Lipov (18:28.086)
is very hard on the body, right? And especially if you have self-destructive capabilities, that's a point for disaster. That I think, I mean, something I know quite a bit about is trauma. I personally had personal trauma and I write papers on that. So having PTSD, just to keep in mind, post-traumatic stress disorder, which is a term I'm trying to change to PTSD, by the way. And I think you sent me a beautiful picture you're wearing to spend. And if you look here,

Sol (18:44.418)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Eugene Lipov (18:58.298)
It says E-PTSI, not PTSD. We're trying to get rid of the term D. I said the proposal to American Psychiatric Association tried to change that, so we'll see. We'll see what happens, but hopefully we'll make it happen. Yeah, me too. People have tried it, and 2012 is our success, but I think we'll do it this time, I hope. Got my fingers crossed. Anyways, the biology of trauma.

Sol (19:04.596)
Uh huh.

Sol (19:13.31)
Yeah, I'm very curious.

Sol (19:18.655)
Yeah.

Sol (19:24.744)
Yes!

Dr. Eugene Lipov (19:27.838)
If somebody has PTSD, they or PTSD, the chance of heart attacks is twice as high because just having a mental issue does affect the heart and the lungs and everything else. Increases chance of cancer. It's a process of the immune system. It does a lot of things. There is also studies showing using epigenetic heart with clock that people are aging quicker. So I think one of the things I hope that people take away from this particular speech is that

Sol (19:51.437)
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Eugene Lipov (19:57.998)
No matter technique you use, mental health should be addressed. Because living in misery, it's one of the things I always talk about. You cannot live in misery. You can, but if you have a choice, do something about it. Get out of the crazy circumstance where you don't have to live in misery. You can, there are skills that are people like yourself. There's many other skilled professionals that can help you. Um, just having, and just one of the things that I was going to bring up.

absolutely blew my mind. There was a young lady in Sweden. She was on a field trip with her class. She was 16 at the time. There was an explosion, bomb explosion, terrorist attack. Half her classmates were killed. So she fell into severe depression for five years. And then in Belgium, they are now, it's legal to have euthanasia for mental health issues. So 23 years old, she was euthanized beginning of this year.

Sol (20:41.806)
Wow.

Dr. Eugene Lipov (20:55.538)
What's interesting to me is that she was on 12 different medications at the time. She's done every psychological thing available. Certainly didn't do stuff I do, which is still getting them blocked with DSR or Kermit certainly didn't do what you do, but it's permanent, right? She was medically killed. So to me, what I'm hoping is people expand their mind. The same old thing doesn't have to continue. Let's do something different.

hope for better results, right?

Sol (21:26.334)
Yes, yes, very important. And also to mention like if you have always the same thoughts and you're like in this negative Loop in your head, there is no way that That that you have the energy to really do something that Encourages you and empowers you right? So I think whoever is listening to this podcast right now if you're

Dr. Eugene Lipov (21:36.878)
loop.

Sol (21:55.762)
are stuck in this negative loop of thinking that you are not enough or not worthy. I think that is why you should do it right now because it won't get any better. It gets even worse and it takes out your energy little by little, slow by slow and it's not worthy to stay stuck there, right? Because life is so precious, like I mean every single minute where you can be

thankful to walk to breathe to see there's so many wonderful things waiting for you so yeah don't

Dr. Eugene Lipov (22:36.954)
There is no need for a slow death, right? Yes, step out of the misery and I think there are options. The point is, when I was not working, change something. I learned that in trauma, you know, when somebody's dying, you don't wanna keep doing the same thing because they're not gonna make it. So change something, same thing here. So I think looking at your website, maybe reading a book with my friend, highly resilient people.

Sol (22:39.699)
Yeah, exactly.

Sol (22:47.094)
Yeah.

Dr. Eugene Lipov (23:06.194)
five practices. It's just it blew my mind. I think you may enjoy reading that. There's an audio version of that too. It's interesting, as you said, you don't appreciate trauma at the time. So there is definitely post trauma learning. When I read the religion, I thought, oh my God, that's just crazy. What do you mean? What can trauma teach us? It can teach you a lot, but it takes time to get in there. And you're alive. You made it.

Sol (23:20.373)
Mmm.

Sol (23:28.064)
I believe that.

I believe that. Yeah. And it takes courage. I mean, I started the woman circle because I was like suffering from love. Like I had, I was so in love and then I didn't expect but he broke up with me. So I was like having so much heart pain and I was like, oh my gosh, I don't wish that for my biggest enemy. And how can I heal that heart that is bleeding so much right now? So I tried.

a lot of healing stuff and trying to yeah to get over it and to solve it because I didn't want to feel the same pain again so I was like I'm going deep and I'm going to take the time just to heal my heart and that is where I found peace within me and that is what I share also to the women and the women circle not only that but

also really to give this buffet that I have learned this present and to give it back and I think that is so powerful and what you've been through too like losing your mother and then coming out of that like much more powerful with a message to give something back, their uniqueness to give a better life quality.

with your work and that is so amazing and it's so beautiful and it needs a lot of courage. It needs a lot of courage to go out there and say you know what and I'm gonna change this and it's so powerful.

Dr. Eugene Lipov (25:12.198)
I agree with you. You know, I got to share one of my other favorite comments. My father used to say that. And he said, you know, it's like if you had the bin of milk and two frogs fall in it. So one of them goes up, time for me to die. Another one goes, I'm not dying. You know, I'm going to fight to the last moment. So he starts to swim, beats up, milk becomes butter and jumps out. So the point is, I think persistence, it gets better.

There is hope at the end of what if somebody is listening to them, horrible pain, emotional pain, physical pain, there is hope. I mean, that's why the name of the and if you look at you have young lady carrying a child, you have a kid, you have a military man. Unfortunately, trauma happens to all. It's a universal condition in a human condition.

Sol (25:50.146)
Beautiful.

Sol (26:01.47)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. The question is what... Yeah, it was frozen a little bit. The question is really like, what are you going to do with that? Do you want to be your own hero of your story or are you going to stay in this misery and just thinking that you are the victim of the circumstance?

Dr. Eugene Lipov (26:04.751)
You froze up little buddy.

Mm.

Dr. Eugene Lipov (26:23.354)
Yeah, exactly. The frog that jumps out doesn't sink, right?

Sol (26:27.346)
Exactly.

Dr. Eugene Lipov (26:29.714)
So I think we've taken enough of your time, but maybe you can lead us in a meditation to close out. What do you think?

Sol (26:36.914)
Oh yeah, perfect, I love that, yeah. We are gonna breathe, because the breath is the connection to your soul, the connection to the world outside of you, everything. Just, it's like the ocean that comes and goes. So we're gonna breathe five seconds in, we're gonna hold for five seconds, and then we're gonna breathe five seconds out with

Dr. Eugene Lipov (26:38.503)
with love though.

Sol (27:08.21)
like a release it's gonna calm you down it's gonna bring you to the present moment and it's gonna bring you more peace okay we breathe together in five four three two one hold it

Sol (27:32.894)
and breathe out. Ahhhhhhh.

Sol (27:40.53)
Again, breathe in to 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 and hold it for 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 and let it all out. Ahhhhhhhhhh

Last time, deep breath in your heart.

Sol (28:11.138)
Hold it.

Sol (28:16.006)
and let it out. Ahhhhhhh...

Sol (28:21.602)
Thank you.

Dr. Eugene Lipov (28:23.122)
Thank you. Thank you so much. And we'll stay in touch. Thank you again. It's an honor to have you on our show. Thank you very much.

Sol (28:29.938)
Thank you. Thank you for your invitation. All the best. Thank you for everybody that is listening. Bye bye.

Dr. Eugene Lipov (28:34.854)
You too. Take care.

Dr. Eugene Lipov (28:39.646)
That's pretty cool.